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How does Terrain Response work on a manual? - Filski - 08-10-2012 04:58am
I can understand how it works on an automatic by changing the accelerator response and holding gears, but where these are controlled manually anyway, what purpose does the system serve?
Trying to decide between manual and auto here. Prefer manual but as this is our first AWD not sure if we are losing any control, nor want to cook the clutch as one dealer told me might happen.
RE: How does Terrain Response work on a manual? - FujiSan - 08-10-2012 09:02am
As far as I know it alters the throttle response, the amount of differential slip it allows between the wheels and controls when HDC is automatically selected. it probably does a bunch of other technical stuff as well, including indicating on the display if your front wheels are not pointing straight ahead.
I'm sure others will join in and reply with anything else it does.
RE: How does Terrain Response work on a manual? - XFullFatTim - 08-10-2012 09:29am
If you are intending to take your car offroad then I would strongly advise the auto - as you dealer says, clutches on manual cars get cooked easily, the auto comes with a gearbox oil cooler as standard. You can still drive your auto as a manual if you like as the paddles also give you a sequential manual shift. If you do a lot of stop tart city driving the auto is also kinder to your left leg.............
How does Terrain Response work on a manual? - Filski - 08-10-2012 12:18pm
Thanks for the responses. Must admit I was sceptical about cooking the clutch so interesting to see that it's true.
How does Terrain Response work on a manual? - ceebee - 08-10-2012 03:49pm
(08-10-2012 09:29am)XFullFatTim Wrote: If you are intending to take your car offroad then I would strongly advise the auto - as you dealer says, clutches on manual cars get cooked easily, the auto comes with a gearbox oil cooler as standard. You can still drive your auto as a manual if you like as the paddles also give you a sequential manual shift. If you do a lot of stop tart city driving the auto is also kinder to your left leg.............
Tim, I take it that the auto is very popular here in Newcastle city centre then? (not that I stop many tarts myself mind)
RE: How does Terrain Response work on a manual? - cjfp - 08-10-2012 06:05pm
(08-10-2012 03:49pm)ceebee Wrote: Tim, I take it that the auto is very popular here in Newcastle city centre then? (not that I stop many tarts myself mind)
many ....?
RE: How does Terrain Response work on a manual? - Ryo - 08-10-2012 06:39pm
Hum... I don't know. I think you can drive off road well with a manual. In fact, many off road vehicles comes with a manual as a standard.
I can see it's convenient not fiddling with the clutch when trying to get up a steep hill, but I can't believe the Evoque's clutch is that bad that it can't be used off road.
A lot of people also mention you have more control and feel in the terrain with a manual. And you have more effective engine braking. So I'm not completely sold on that. Especially it hits 2.300 Euro more on my pocket.
Maybe you could give a look at the "dark side"
It's an interesting thread that comes up with issues and pros for both transmissions:http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f27/auto-vs-manual-off-road-14029/
And the exact proceeding when using the Terrain Response system with a manual gearbox would be quite interesting. Not much to be found at Landrover though.
RE: How does Terrain Response work on a manual? - XFullFatTim - 08-10-2012 07:01pm
Ryo, yes you can take a manual offroad and do no harm to the clutch however you do have to be very careful with the Fredlander and Evoque's clutches. I have a manual gear box Defender (there is no auto option), but the clutch in that is "beefed" up for off road use, same as manual Jeeps are. The biggest problem with auto's offroad is controlling engine braking - less difficult with LR's commandshift system where you can hold the lower gears more easily than in a conventional auto
RE: How does Terrain Response work on a manual? - Ryo - 08-10-2012 07:25pm
(08-10-2012 07:01pm)XFullFatTim Wrote: Ryo, yes you can take a manual offroad and do no harm to the clutch however you do have to be very careful with the Fredlander and Evoque's clutches. I have a manual gear box Defender (there is no auto option), but the clutch in that is "beefed" up for off road use, same as manual Jeeps are. The biggest problem with auto's offroad is controlling engine braking - less difficult with LR's commandshift system where you can hold the lower gears more easily than in a conventional auto
Is there no doubt that the Evoque clutch and the Freelander clutch is the same?
They heavily promote the Evoque's off road capabilities. I'm wondering.
RE: How does Terrain Response work on a manual? - rchrdleigh - 08-10-2012 08:06pm
(08-10-2012 07:25pm)Ryo Wrote: Is there no doubt that the Evoque clutch and the Freelander clutch is the same?
They heavily promote the Evoque's off road capabilities. I'm wondering.
No doubt at all - clutch is the same on both Evoque and Freelander.
Evoque is good off road - when you see it for the first time you'll be amazed at what it can do.
LR Experience Centres tend to use automatic vehicles as they are easier to use off road if the driver is not that experienced. But a manual will be as capable in the right hands.