LTB00532v2 - Hill Start Assist Applied During Low Speed Manouevre

Just noticed this on Topix:

https://topix.landrover.jlrext.com/topix...?id=442278

Any one have access to give me the jist. Had this very occasionally on my 1st car, but am getting it quite often on the 2nd; this makes sense now, knowing that it is the Hill Decent Control kicking in. Would be good to know the "cure" and be empowered before I go to my dealer (so I don't get fobbed off!)

Thanks

Don't have access to Topix, but how do you know this is happening on yours? What are the symptoms?

(28-10-2013 12:08am)PhilSkill Wrote:  Don't have access to Topix, but how do you know this is happening on yours? What are the symptoms?

For example, I reverse out of my drive and do a 90deg right turn at walking pace. Let clutch out and accelerate forward on full left lock to go down my road and as you get to above 10mph the rhythmic thump thump of the HDC kicks in and you the whole car tries to come to a stop. First time I thought what have I run over? but now know I just need to dip the clutch and carry on driving. The force it slows you with can be enough to lock the seat belt. Wonder if this is also related to the steering clonking previously reported by myself?

Hi BFG, sorry I don't have version 2 of this TSB saved, but here is version 1 from March of this year. It can't be much different and let's you know what possibly needs doing. Hope it helps. Paula xx

TECHNICAL BULLETIN
LTB00532
08 MAR 2013
SECTION: 206-00
Hill Start Assist Applied During Low Speed Manoeuvres
AFFECTED VEHICLE RANGE:
Range Rover Evoque (LV) - Vehicles with manual transmission and without park assist system - See Table 1 below for a list of individual VINs
Model Year: 2012-2013
VIN: H600548-H745636

MARKETS:
All
CONDITION SUMMARY:
Situation:
A customer may report "Hill Start Assist" is applied during low speed manoeuvres.
Any vehicle requiring the repair detailed below that is not in the VIN list (see Table 1) should be carried out as a separate warranty claim.
Cause: Non-directional wheel speed sensors have been installed to the rear of the vehicle. Suggested Customer Concern Code - H02.
Action: Should a customer express concern, follow the Service Instruction outlined below.
PARTS:
LR024208 Wheel speed sensor Quantity: 2
WARRANTY:
Table 1
H600548 H601089 H601332 H601487 H601816 H602209 H602211 H603110
H603404 H603691 H603912 H604020 H605490 H605508 H609534 H609572
H609632 H611139 H611407 H612904 H622566 H625433 H627943 H636560
H636647 H637367 H638347 H638771 H645751 H645920 H648393 H649369
H649985 H658524 H660772 H661409 H665270 H665409 H666312 H668911
H670441 H671495 H679022 H681431 H684506 H684514 H686598 H693586
H700272 H700309 H706241 H712622 H716809 H745636
NOTE: Repair procedures are under constant review, and therefore times are subject to change; those quoted here must be taken as guidance only. Always refer to TOPIx to obtain the latest repair time.
NOTE: DDW requires the use of causal part numbers. Labor only claims must show the causal part number with a quantity of zero.
DESCRIPTION SRO TIME (HOURS) CONDITION CODE CAUSAL PART
Install rear wheel speed sensors - rear - pair 70.65.33 0.7 42 LR024203
Carry out "hill start assist applied" special application 05.10.20 0.2 42 LR024203
NOTE: Normal Warranty policies and procedures apply.
SERVICE INSTRUCTION:
CAUTION: Make sure the both non-directional rear wheel sensors are replaced with directional wheel speed sensors before carrying out the SDD application.
1. Note the difference between the sensors.
• The directional wheel speed sensor is identified by the RED tape.
• The non-directional wheel speed sensor is identified by the YELLOW tape.
2. Install both rear wheel speed sensors (see TOPIx Workshop Manual, section 206-09A).
• Remove and discard the wheel speed sensors with the yellow tape.
• Install the wheel speed sensors with the red tape.
3. CAUTION: This procedure requires SDD DVD133.03 and Calibration File 129 loaded or later.
Connect the Land Rover approved battery conditioner/power supply.
4. Connect SDD to the vehicle and begin a new diagnostic session, by reading the VIN for the current vehicle and initiating the data collect sequence.
5. Follow the SDD prompts.
6. Where no internet access is available.
1. Select the Diagnosis Session Type.
2. Select the Symptoms tab and enter any of the following Symptom (s).
• Chassis / Braking System / Electronic Parking Brake.
3. Select the Recommendations tab.
4. Run : Special applications - Hill start assist applied
7. When all tasks are complete, exit the current session by selecting the Session tab and then selecting the Close Session option.
8. Disconnect SDD and the battery conditioner/power supply.

Paula,

That's a really good started for 10, although my chassis number is a couple of thousand later than the affected range. This will help me convince my (German) stealer what is wrong as they have something to go on, rather than thinking I am a crazy Brit making things up since it is a very random event of which there is absolutely no hope in replicating at the dealers.

BFG

Lol, I'm sure they think we're all mad Brits anyway . At least you have something to be armed with for your visit. Perhaps V2 of this TSB is very similar, but covering the later VIN numbers. Hope you get it sorted soon, Buddy. Paula xx

(28-10-2013 01:18pm)dynamicgirl Wrote:  Lol, I'm sure they think we're all mad Brits anyway . At least you have something to be armed with for your visit. Perhaps V2 of this TSB is very similar, but covering the later VIN numbers. Hope you get it sorted soon, Buddy. Paula xx

I'll let you know how I get on next week; quick blast to Bavaria on Weds for a long weekend.

BFG
Which stealer are you using GT or BI?

(28-10-2013 08:58pm)Stadt Panzer Wrote:  BFG
Which stealer are you using GT or BI?

I was using BI for a while but they really p***** me off a few months back so am now using GT; they have got better recently as they seem to have a new service manager. I can't be bothered to go to HF, but they have always been the best of the three in the past. Might try KE later in the week as we spend quite a lot of time down there.

Where are you?

Note to all other users: we haven't gone mad!

The code breakers at bletchley park, are working on it