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Real world mpg
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RE: Real world mpg

(18-01-2012 09:46pm)cjfp Wrote:  See my post above - they'll will say they are not their figures - you'll have to sue the Government!

They can try saying that, but at least two bits of their own literature claim those consumption figures as their own, not 'official' test figures. See my earlier post on the subject Thumbs Up
18-01-2012 11:27pm
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18-01-2012 11:37pm
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Dave_T
 

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RE: Real world mpg

For example, the website currently (18/1/12) states:
http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/rr/range-...ection_top

Performance (Manufacturer's Estimates): SD4 Manual
Maximum speed mph (kph) 124 (200)
Acceleration 0-60mph (0-100kph) seconds 9.5 (10.0)
Fuel Economy: SD4 Manual
Urban mpg (L/100km) 42.2 (6.7)
Extra urban mpg (L/100km) 54.3 (5.2)
Combined mpg (L/100km) 49.6 (5.7)
CO₂ emissions (g/km) 149


Note that this is the Manufacturers estimate, not a repetition of the official figures.
19-01-2012 12:16am
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MrHooky
 

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Re: Real world mpg

This is shocking. We ordered the ed4 for the sole reason of mpg as we just don't need 4wd. Currently have a 2.0TFSI A5 which at fast motorway speeds will return just over 40mpg. If the lesser powered, similar weighted Evoque manual ed4 does not better the A5 I'm going to be miffed.

RRS supercharged converted to lpg sounding more appealing. Can pick early models up for peanuts...

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19-01-2012 12:21am
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THEMACS
 

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RE: Real world mpg

(19-01-2012 12:21am)MrHooky Wrote:  This is shocking. We ordered the ed4 for the sole reason of mpg as we just don't need 4wd. Currently have a 2.0TFSI A5 which at fast motorway speeds will return just over 40mpg. If the lesser powered, similar weighted Evoque manual ed4 does not better the A5 I'm going to be miffed.

RRS supercharged converted to lpg sounding more appealing. Can pick early models up for peanuts...

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19-01-2012 09:50am
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MrHooky
 

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(19-01-2012 09:50am)THEMACS Wrote:  Best Cancel it thenLaughingLaughing

Sounds like the auto is slightly to blame. Having the manual you'd hope you could short shift if you wanted to improve consumption.

As with most people on this forum we love the look of the car too much to care but it does annoy me of late the difference in current claimed mpg with manufacturers. It's been said above but I've been able to match or better claimed mpg on previous VAG diesels I've owned. I hope we're going to see close to 50 on a motorway run given the manual ed4 claims 57 mpg...




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19-01-2012 10:21am
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Pricy147
 

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RE: Real world mpg

well we have the SD4 manual and have seen very little improvement (if any) in the MPG after well over 5k miles. Still averaging ~ 37 compared with claimed 49.9. Mostly motorway driving too.

If you turn everything off, drive about 60, and set it into cruise control - you can get mid to mid/high 40's. thats not real world driving. Also 49.9 is 'combined' not the 'maximum possible'.

I think LR need to be hung up to dry over this, with compensation surely required, and future literature modified to reflect reality.

you expect some discrepancy - but not ~ 25%

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19-01-2012 03:53pm
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RE: Real world mpg

Unfortunately the consumption figures are not calculated by LR but by somebody in the ministry who simulates the car in a computer and comes up with rubbish. My last 4 RR's have all achieved very close to the combined figure from LR, within 1mpg, but not the Evoque. Personally I'm not too worried yet more disappointed that it doesn't meet the claims, especially after running 2 x 3.6ltr TDv8 RR's which could get (and sometimes bettered) 30mpg and both got around 27-28mpg in local driving.

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19-01-2012 04:17pm
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FujiSan
 

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RE: Real world mpg

Come on, time to move on surely.

The tests are detailed on the Internet, just google them.

The tests are not run on a computer simulation, they use an actual car. It does not swan up and down a motorway or pootle around town at 60 with everythingnswitched off. It runs in a climate controlled chamber on a rolling road under strict test conditions. Not every single car produced, not even a representative sample - just one sample car. So it's no surprise that yours won't produce the same data

You can't sue anyone if an estimate is wrong. It's an estimate, not a statement of fact.

Even the men from the ministry accept that the tests are not representative of real world motoring and will replace it with, hopefully, something more representative (just google it again).

Until then, we will just have to put up with it, or give it back if you feel really aggrieved, or don't buy one in the first place if you have yet to take delivery.

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19-01-2012 09:25pm
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Dave_T
 

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Nope, not accepted.

LANDROVER claim in their advertising that the SD4 Manual will achieve 49.6mpg combined. NOT the official / Govt test.

It IS reasonable to expect it to actually do it, in exactly the same way as it's reasonable to expect it to be delivered with 4 wheels not 3 !
19-01-2012 09:42pm
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