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RE: The curse of bio diesel ! - Jonathon555 - 24-03-2013 08:19pm
(24-03-2013 07:14pm)XFullFatTim Wrote: There's part of your answer - the 2.2TDi in the Evoque is a Ford/PSA engine
Common theme amongst forums , same stable same problem
RE: The curse of bio diesel ! - ED209 - 24-03-2013 09:49pm
My car had a blocked fuel filter after 6000 miles, the technican said it was quite a common issue. It also went into limp home mode.
RE: The curse of bio diesel ! - Jonathon555 - 24-03-2013 09:52pm
(24-03-2013 09:49pm)ED209 Wrote: My car had a blocked fuel filter after 6000 miles, the technican said it was quite a common issue. It also went into limp home mode.
Fill up at Tesco Durham by any chance ?
RE: The curse of bio diesel ! - XFullFatTim - 25-03-2013 12:24am
Wonder if anybody over on the Freel2 forums has suffered the same issue
RE: The curse of bio diesel ! - ED209 - 25-03-2013 11:32am
(24-03-2013 09:52pm)Jonathon555 Wrote: Fill up at Tesco Durham by any chance ?
Er nope but 90% of my fuel came from tesco consett so probably the same fuel!
The curse of bio diesel ! - muff - 25-03-2013 11:37am
(24-03-2013 06:02pm)BaringTech Wrote: I got my Evoque back on Friday after it spent 10 days at the dealers while they investigated a very similar problem.
The engine was warm and I was more than halfway to work when it coughed and spluttered and very nearly stalled on me. The yellow triangle came up with the restricted performance warning and I think I saw a low fuel pressure warning (over half a tank of diesel left though). The rest of the journey was completed very slowly and carefully and I then called Land Rover Assistance.
The Land Rover tech guy plugged in his laptop and the fault logged was "P0087-22 - Fuel rail pressure too low." He would have changed the fuel filter there and then if he had one on him, but he didn't so he referred me to the dealers (where it had been serviced only four weeks previously!).
The dealer could not find a definitive reason for the fault and spent a few days talking to Land Rover, uploading data from the engine management system. In the end they just changed the fuel filter and declared it fixed. I've put a few miles on it this weekend without any further hiccups - time will tell.
PS - I've never put supermarket fuel in it, mainly BP Ultimate, or Shell V-Power and the standard versions when those are not available.
My RR Sport did this once and gave the same message "fuel rail pressure too low" it went into limp mode and nearly had me wiped out on a roundabout due to the sudden and without warning loss of power. LR Assist guy traced my fault not to the fuel filter but to a minuscule leak of fuel passing the Schrader valve that is used to bleed air out of the fuel system (same as a tyre valve) located under the bonnet near the bulkhead on the Sport. Replaced this and never had bother again. I wonder if this could be the problem
RE: The curse of bio diesel ! - Westy - 25-03-2013 10:13pm
There is something strange with this common problem but I feel lucky after doing 37000m without missing a beat, two weeks ago I did 1500 miles in one week all over the uk and mostly supermarket fuel.
The scary part is fuel now in the uk is now b7 to fit in with European directives and that means it can be produced with up to 7% bio and bio can mean anything, rape, palm and many other nasties, I know with my work that the Germans are even been pushed into b10 (10%) however many oems are not happy about this.
En590 fuels are blended to an exact specification, nothing more nothing less,
Worth keeping an eye on this one
RE: The curse of bio diesel ! - Inges - 25-03-2013 10:32pm
Just ticked 23000km on my car and with temps below -20 here during winter I haven't experienced any issues with the fuel filter. I fill up my car with fuel from Statoil and sometimes Shell V-Power, but mostly Statoil. They are adding up to 7% biodiesel in their diesel.
/Inge
RE: The curse of bio diesel ! - Jonathon555 - 25-03-2013 10:43pm
(25-03-2013 10:32pm)Inges Wrote: Just ticked 23000km on my car and with temps below -20 here during winter I haven't experienced any issues with the fuel filter. I fill up my car with fuel from Statoil and sometimes Shell V-Power, but mostly Statoil. They are adding up to 7% biodiesel in their diesel.
/Inge
Interesting, maybe some other factors are coming into play in the uk. Poor fuel storage maybe
After googling the problem , it is widespread in the uk.
I am just wondering what it's gonna happen again to me
RE: The curse of bio diesel ! - XFullFatTim - 25-03-2013 10:54pm
I wonder if the last batch of fuel you filled up with was emulsified water/diesel. With low air temperatures and "warm" diesel in the filling station tanks there may be condensation in the tanks. The other way that you can get emulsified diesel is when crooked tanker truck drivers add water to their cargo............ On the ship we have recently had huge issues with what is called Cappuccino fuel - unlikely to happen on a filling station forecourt as it requires passing lots of compressed air through the fuel to make it foam a lot giving a false delivery quantity - bearing in mind that we are using heavy fuel not diesel and we pay $700 a tonne and buy 7,00 -10,000 tonnes at a fill up so the potential for map-practice is huge and the profits vast.