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RE: Wading/Fording Experience - XFullFatTim - 17-11-2012 10:49pm

In theory our Evoque's can do this............... as our intake is at the same level as the wing intake of my Defender...... but I have a snorkel (not a raised intake!)
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RE: Wading/Fording Experience - slee18 - 23-11-2012 05:00am

Love your defender Tim. Wish they sold them in the US still, looks like the last year I can find is 1997


RE: Wading/Fording Experience - XFullFatTim - 23-11-2012 09:12am

That must have been a special import! IIRC 1977 was the last year of official US sales - when airbags became a requirement on all cars in the USA. Defender cannot be re-engineered to take airbags, it would compromise the offroad ability unlike newer designs of 4x4 designed more recently. I have seen quite recent Defenders in Virginia and Maryland and on enquiring it transpired that the owners had imported them when they returned from serving with the US forces in Germany. There are companies over here who can export Land Rovers and Defenders but these days there are no petrol engined made for the European market and the latest Defenderes have an engine that doesn't like your "low" sulphur diesel - yours has too much sulphur! Old Land Rovers are worth a fortune in the US these days. I have heard a good one can fetch $50,000............... for a 30 year old car!


RE: Wading/Fording Experience - NightFox - 23-11-2012 01:38pm

(23-11-2012 09:12am)XFullFatTim Wrote:  That must have been a special import! IIRC 1977 was the last year of official US sales - when airbags became a requirement on all cars in the USA. Defender cannot be re-engineered to take airbags, it would compromise the offroad ability unlike newer designs of 4x4 designed more recently. I have seen quite recent Defenders in Virginia and Maryland and on enquiring it transpired that the owners had imported them when they returned from serving with the US forces in Germany. There are companies over here who can export Land Rovers and Defenders but these days there are no petrol engined made for the European market and the latest Defenderes have an engine that doesn't like your "low" sulphur diesel - yours has too much sulphur! Old Land Rovers are worth a fortune in the US these days. I have heard a good one can fetch $50,000............... for a 30 year old car!

Wow, I never knew the Defender wasn't available in the US. So I guess the LR brand was only kept alive by the Range Rover for many years (though I'm sure many Americans wouldn't have even known that Land Rover = Range Rover). I'm surprised that missing out on this market wasn't enough to make LR re-engineer the Defender before now, I'm sure they'll make sure that the future model meets all the US requirements!


RE: Wading/Fording Experience - XFullFatTim - 23-11-2012 02:26pm

Discovery 1,2 ,3 and 4 have all been ongeneral release in the USA with V8 petrol engines. Freelander 1 was available for a short period but was overpriced, unreliable (although a friend of mine took his out to 200,000 miles with only one breakdown) and too small. Range Rover was available from the start of the LWB Classic IIRC. RRS was a huge hit there and Freelander2 (called LR2) is also available Stateside.
Prior to 1977 the Series Land Rovers were sold in USA and were very popular and many are still going strong with V8 engines. The Model Called Land Rover 90 and Land Rover 110 were not exported either but many of the US Armed Forces guys serving with the Army On Rhine took ex Military Land Rover90 and 110's back to the States as they realised the investment potential (and to thumb a nose at Jeep owners!). I'm not sure but there was one year in the UK when there were no new Defenders available(possibly 1991) when in the first Gulf War the US army brought all the production as they found the HumVee was next to useless in the sand and needed petrol that had to be imported from the USA! HumVees were designed for war in Eastern Europe not desert operations


RE: Wading/Fording Experience - NightFox - 23-11-2012 02:50pm

(23-11-2012 02:26pm)XFullFatTim Wrote:  Discovery 1,2 ,3 and 4 have all been ongeneral release in the USA with V8 petrol engines. Freelander 1 was available for a short period but was overpriced, unreliable (although a friend of mine took his out to 200,000 miles with only one breakdown) and too small. Range Rover was available from the start of the LWB Classic IIRC. RRS was a huge hit there and Freelander2 (called LR2) is also available Stateside.
Prior to 1977 the Series Land Rovers were sold in USA and were very popular and many are still going strong with V8 engines. The Model Called Land Rover 90 and Land Rover 110 were not exported either but many of the US Armed Forces guys serving with the Army On Rhine took ex Military Land Rover90 and 110's back to the States as they realised the investment potential (and to thumb a nose at Jeep owners!). I'm not sure but there was one year in the UK when there were no new Defenders available(possibly 1991) when in the first Gulf War the US army brought all the production as they found the HumVee was next to useless in the sand and needed petrol that had to be imported from the USA! HumVees were designed for war in Eastern Europe not desert operations

Ah yes, silly me, I forgot about the Disco!


RE: Wading/Fording Experience - PhilSkill - 23-11-2012 02:59pm

Could be few more wading/fording experiences after tomorrows rain... Back in mine after another week in the Espace thankfully. Fields are completely waterlogged and pouring onto the roads in places already before another predicted deluge!


RE: Wading/Fording Experience - XFullFatTim - 23-11-2012 03:29pm

Lovely sunny day up here, cold so not a lot of drying out happening!


RE: Wading/Fording Experience - cutter7 - 23-11-2012 04:05pm

(23-11-2012 02:59pm)PhilSkill Wrote:  Could be few more wading/fording experiences after tomorrows rain... Back in mine after another week in the Espace thankfully. Fields are completely waterlogged and pouring onto the roads in places already before another predicted deluge!

And our Motorway Junction is closed!! up to Gaydon and tailback to A34..i need to get north..Rolling Eyes


RE: Wading/Fording Experience - PhilSkill - 23-11-2012 04:18pm

Thanks, that helps me choose the route home tonight, Cheers Cutter!,

Southam road is usually a good option for North...?