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Well I thout that the tires were going to be all season just like my dealer told me but instead my pure came withcontinetal contact tires summer. I need all season for snow

All season are fitted to 19" wheels so I guess you have 20" which only come with summer tyres.

(19-11-2012 07:01am)Stadt Panzer Wrote: [ -> ]All season are fitted to 19" wheels so I guess you have 20" which only come with summer tyres.

no , they are Continental Cross contact 235/55/19 this is what came with the car Evoque Pure this tires are summer tires i dont get it??

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?...ontact+UHP

(19-11-2012 07:38am)Socrates Wrote: [ -> ]no , they are Continental Cross contact 235/55/19 this is what came with the car Evoque Pure this tires are summer tires i dont get it??

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?...ontact+UHP

That is strange... Just picked up my Pure (US Spec) a few weeks ago, it has 235/55/19 Continentals on it but it does have the M+S symbol opposite the sizes on the outer wall of the tire.

(19-11-2012 07:43am)AandM1228 Wrote: [ -> ]That is strange... Just picked up my Pure (US Spec) a few weeks ago, it has 235/55/19 Continentals on it but it does have the M+S symbol opposite the sizes on the outer wall of the tire.

wich Continentals do u have? this is what i have


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic.jsp...ontact+UHP

(19-11-2012 08:19am)Socrates Wrote: [ -> ]wich Continentals do u have? this is what i have


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic.jsp...ontact+UHP

They say "CROSS CONTACT" on the side. Just under the "R" is the M+S symbol... You should physically look at your tire and double check. I can't imagine that LR would put a "Street/Sport Truck Summer Tire" on your Evogue unless they were 20's.

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(19-11-2012 08:48am)AandM1228 Wrote: [ -> ]They say "CROSS CONTACT" on the side. Just under the "R" is the M+S symbol... You should physically look at your tire and double check. I can't imagine that LR would put a "Street/Sport Truck Summer Tire" on your Evogue unless they were 20's.

I uploaded a few pics..
http://s1306.beta.photobucket.com/user/m...rary/Tires

(19-11-2012 08:48am)AandM1228 Wrote: [ -> ]They say "CROSS CONTACT" on the side. Just under the "R" is the M+S symbol... You should physically look at your tire and double check. I can't imagine that LR would put a "Street/Sport Truck Summer Tire" on your Evogue unless they were 20's.

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I uploaded a few pics..
http://s1306.beta.photobucket.com/user/m...rary/Tires

i will check closer in the morning just to make sure that M+S

so you have the same tire with M+S?

just to be sure M is Mud & S is Snow

hwats the diffrence with M+S and all season?

The tread pattern is different

Ok guys I checked my tires and I see a ( M.S ) but if there for mud and snow then why are they under summer catogory. I don't get it??

(19-11-2012 08:24pm)Socrates Wrote: [ -> ]Ok guys I checked my tires and I see a ( M.S ) but if there for mud and snow then why are they under summer catogory. I don't get it??

Maybe Tirerack.com has it listed wrong or it may not be exactly the same tire. I pulled this off the net, hope it helps.

All-Season Tires with Mud and Snow Designation
If a tire has MS, M+S, M/S or M&S on it, then it meets the Rubber Manufacturers Association (RMA) guidelines for a mud and snow tire. For a tire to receive the Mud and Snow designation, it must meet these geometric requirements (taken from the bulletin "RMA Snow Tire Definitions for Passenger and Light Truck (LT) Tires"):

1. New tire treads shall have multiple pockets or slots in at least one tread edge that meet the following dimensional requirements based on mold dimensions:

Extend toward the tread center at least 1/2 inch from the footprint edge, measured perpendicularly to the tread centerline.
A minimum cross-sectional width of 1/16 inch.
Edges of pockets or slots at angles between 35 and 90 degrees from the direction of travel.
2. The new tire tread contact surface void area will be a minimum of 25 percent based on mold dimensions.

The rough translation of this specification is that the tire must have a row of fairly big grooves that start at the edge of the tread and extend toward the center of the tire. Also, at least 25 percent of the surface area must be grooves.


Severe winter traction icon
The idea is to give the tread pattern enough void space so that it can bite through the snow and get traction. However, as you can see from the specification, there is no testing involved.

To address this shortcoming, the Rubber Manufacturers Association and the tire industry have agreed on a standard that does involve testing. The designation is called Severe Snow Use and has a specific icon (see image at right), which goes next to the M/S designation.

In order to meet this standard, tires must be tested using an American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM) testing procedure described in "RMA Definition for Passenger and Light Truck Tires for use in Severe Snow Conditions":

Tires designed for use in severe snow conditions are recognized by manufacturers to attain a traction index equal to or greater than 110 compared to the ASTM E-1136 Standard Reference Test Tire when using the ASTM F-1805 snow traction test with equivalent percentage loads.

These tires, in addition to meeting the geometrical requirements for an M/S designation, are tested on snow using a standardized test procedure.They have to do better than the standard reference tire in order to meet the requirements for Severe Snow Use.