Retro Fitting Front Fog Lights - Pure/Dynamic

I will start by saying dont try this on your own unless you have a resonably good mechanical knowledge and a set of smallish Torx bits - oh and patience and thin arms and a large vocabulary of swear words (I only have the last attribute).
I was one of those who, in the mad rush to order my car, didnt notice the car didnt come with - then didnt have time to add - front fog lights.
The car arrived and the silver plastic fog light shaped inserts were not doing anything for me or IMHO the front 'look'of the car. I managed to get a set of fog lights off Ebay and was happy once again
Boy was I in for a shock. I will take this opportunity to apologise for not having any photos of the job as it progressed but if I had to do that as well I probably wouldnt be able to write this as there is apparently very little movement in a straightjacket.
I decided to do this the easy way (Oh really!!) and not completely remove the front bumper. I really only wanted the fog lights for 'show' and didnt intend to ever wire them up. On my Pure (Think Dynamic is the same) start by pulling firmly on the black semi circular arch trim. It will pop off and can be easily refitted. There is one of those push in type plastic fixings which holds the arch liner to the front wing (the wings on our really expensive cars are plastic by the way !). Both sides are the same. The arch liner can be teased out from behind the wing and is flexible enough to get a thin arm (or a fat arm - if you can stand the pain and the after-look which resembled a serious self-harm effort) into the gap, pop out the upper and lower black plastic trim pieces and unscrew the 3 Torx screws (size 25 I think).
You will find that if you start on the nearside there is nothing much in the space and the plastic insert can be removed reasonably easily. The fog light can be manipulated through the same gap as your arm and is fiddly but can be screwed in with a bit of patience.
The offside is a whole other ball game. Fixings/arch trim are the same but the windscreen washer reservoir takes up most of the area behind the fog-light. Had to release the single fixing holding the reservoir to the chassis and the support on the bonnet slam panel but still had to hacksaw off the lower fixing on the silver trim panel before I could get it out. I then took the green screw fixers off the bumper and transferred them onto the fog light which can with a bit of gentle forcing, lots of swear words for lubrication and patience (you wont have any left by this time) will eventually go back in and the screws were re-attached from the outside rather than the inside.
Took about 2 hours - looks great - but I filled the swear jar and both forearms looked like Id had a serious go at self harm.

Thankfully had time to add after I missed them also, sounds like a good £250 well spent as didn't appreciate the difficulty to retro fit

(15-03-2012 10:04pm)BobM Wrote:  I will start by saying dont try this on your own unless you have a resonably good mechanical knowledge and a set of smallish Torx bits - oh and patience and thin arms and a large vocabulary of swear words (I only have the last attribute).
I was one of those who, in the mad rush to order my car, didnt notice the car didnt come with - then didnt have time to add - front fog lights.
The car arrived and the silver plastic fog light shaped inserts were not doing anything for me or IMHO the front 'look'of the car. I managed to get a set of fog lights off Ebay and was happy once again
Boy was I in for a shock. I will take this opportunity to apologise for not having any photos of the job as it progressed but if I had to do that as well I probably wouldnt be able to write this as there is apparently very little movement in a straightjacket.
I decided to do this the easy way (Oh really!!) and not completely remove the front bumper. I really only wanted the fog lights for 'show' and didnt intend to ever wire them up. On my Pure (Think Dynamic is the same) start by pulling firmly on the black semi circular arch trim. It will pop off and can be easily refitted. There is one of those push in type plastic fixings which holds the arch liner to the front wing (the wings on our really expensive cars are plastic by the way !). Both sides are the same. The arch liner can be teased out from behind the wing and is flexible enough to get a thin arm (or a fat arm - if you can stand the pain and the after-look which resembled a serious self-harm effort) into the gap, pop out the upper and lower black plastic trim pieces and unscrew the 3 Torx screws (size 25 I think).
You will find that if you start on the nearside there is nothing much in the space and the plastic insert can be removed reasonably easily. The fog light can be manipulated through the same gap as your arm and is fiddly but can be screwed in with a bit of patience.
The offside is a whole other ball game. Fixings/arch trim are the same but the windscreen washer reservoir takes up most of the area behind the fog-light. Had to release the single fixing holding the reservoir to the chassis and the support on the bonnet slam panel but still had to hacksaw off the lower fixing on the silver trim panel before I could get it out. I then took the green screw fixers off the bumper and transferred them onto the fog light which can with a bit of gentle forcing, lots of swear words for lubrication and patience (you wont have any left by this time) will eventually go back in and the screws were re-attached from the outside rather than the inside.
Took about 2 hours - looks great - but I filled the swear jar and both forearms looked like Id had a serious go at self harm.

Loved this story. Funnily enough, if you replaced 'fog lights' with 'mud flaps' (in the story, not literally!) I could have written it myself - even the self-harm bit! Anyone thinking of fitting their own mud flaps without the ability to remove the wheels (which I haven't got, having unwittingly purchased the car without a spare wheel/jack/wheel-brace) I would think again. The so-called 'instructions' suggest 20 minutes a set - swap 'minutes' to 'hours' and it's about right!

At least I have discovered what's behind the flimsy felt rear wheel arch liners - nothing! They aren't liners, in fact, they, and some fresh air, is all there is!

Full of admiration. Great narrative and well done!

The scars of modern plastics!! I too fitted the mudlaps and had the red blotchy skin for a couple of days after wrestling with the sharp plastics

Now you have installed them and IMO the lights break up the look of the front of the car.

I have had many company cars over 20 years, newer cars fitted with fog lights and have never had one where they were just for show, even in fog they did not make much difference.

You will not be disappointed if you go the next step and wire them up, they are amazing, they give a lovely wide spread of brilliant white light and light up the grass verges brilliantly, I use them driving at night on lanes or single track roads when no one is coming the other way, and I am really glad I added them to the options list.

When your skin has healed you will not be disappointed. You should be able to get some simple wiring and relays.

Best of luck

(15-03-2012 10:04pm)BobM Wrote:  I will start by saying dont try this on your own unless you have a resonably good mechanical knowledge and a set of smallish Torx bits - oh and patience and thin arms and a large vocabulary of swear words (I only have the last attribute).
I was one of those who, in the mad rush to order my car, didnt notice the car didnt come with - then didnt have time to add - front fog lights.
The car arrived and the silver plastic fog light shaped inserts were not doing anything for me or IMHO the front 'look'of the car. I managed to get a set of fog lights off Ebay and was happy once again
Boy was I in for a shock. I will take this opportunity to apologise for not having any photos of the job as it progressed but if I had to do that as well I probably wouldnt be able to write this as there is apparently very little movement in a straightjacket.
I decided to do this the easy way (Oh really!!) and not completely remove the front bumper. I really only wanted the fog lights for 'show' and didnt intend to ever wire them up. On my Pure (Think Dynamic is the same) start by pulling firmly on the black semi circular arch trim. It will pop off and can be easily refitted. There is one of those push in type plastic fixings which holds the arch liner to the front wing (the wings on our really expensive cars are plastic by the way !). Both sides are the same. The arch liner can be teased out from behind the wing and is flexible enough to get a thin arm (or a fat arm - if you can stand the pain and the after-look which resembled a serious self-harm effort) into the gap, pop out the upper and lower black plastic trim pieces and unscrew the 3 Torx screws (size 25 I think).
You will find that if you start on the nearside there is nothing much in the space and the plastic insert can be removed reasonably easily. The fog light can be manipulated through the same gap as your arm and is fiddly but can be screwed in with a bit of patience.
The offside is a whole other ball game. Fixings/arch trim are the same but the windscreen washer reservoir takes up most of the area behind the fog-light. Had to release the single fixing holding the reservoir to the chassis and the support on the bonnet slam panel but still had to hacksaw off the lower fixing on the silver trim panel before I could get it out. I then took the green screw fixers off the bumper and transferred them onto the fog light which can with a bit of gentle forcing, lots of swear words for lubrication and patience (you wont have any left by this time) will eventually go back in and the screws were re-attached from the outside rather than the inside.
Took about 2 hours - looks great - but I filled the swear jar and both forearms looked like Id had a serious go at self harm.

Hi BobM,

Thanks to share your experience, i also want to get the front fogs, did you buy from ebay the supplier Kar-Solutions UK?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Ran..._500wt_689

Thanks,

(24-03-2012 10:11am)TatikBruno Wrote:  Hi BobM,

Thanks to share your experience, i also want to get the front fogs, did you buy from ebay the supplier Kar-Solutions UK?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Ran..._500wt_689

Thanks,

Search for seller - rover81range - on Ebay. He usually has a good few parts for sale and has listed about half a dozen sets of front fogs since September 2011.

Hi Just to say that I have also carried out this mod - and thanks for the instructions.

My only diversion was on the offside where the lower screw is just almost impossible to get at, becasue of the washer bottle. Looking at my options I decided that as I was replacing the grey covers, I didnt really need them - so I drilled the front and cut a large section out with a jigsaw, always being careful not to get too enthusiastic ! This provided much easier access to the diffcult bolt, which was then removed quickly. Retro fitting was a doddle, but do take Bobm's advice and reverse the green fixing to the foglight and then just screw in from the front

Again I would re-iterate that more than a few swear words were uttered but having done it once, if youre patient then its a fairly easy way to upgrade the car. Mine ofc dont work, but they look great ! I purchased some slightly damaged ones from Ebay - the plugs were broken but easily fixed and sealed with a glue gun - cost me £70

(15-03-2012 11:12pm)tash Wrote:  Thankfully had time to add after I missed them also, sounds like a good £250 well spent as didn't appreciate the difficulty to retro fit

£250? You was robbed!

bobm..... so you just need get the fog light to fit it... no need for any additional parts?