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Auto Lights and Fog!
PhilSkill
 

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Auto Lights and Fog!

I'm not a fan of Auto Lights, but if you use them please be aware..

YOUR AUTO LIGHTS DO NOT COME ON IN BRIGHT FOG...!

I saw a lot of cars without lights on, making it extreemly hazardous out there this morning.

Some of those will just be the clueless, but Freelanders were definitely among the worst vehicle (as there's a lot of them to be seen) running around on front DRL's only.

It would help if rear lights were on all the time, there's no reason for this not to be the case now we have LED lights. Volvo's have been doing this for years.

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14-03-2014 10:02am
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RE: Auto Lights and Fog!

Thank you Phil - as you know I have pressed and pressed for LR to look into this but "because it is not a legal requirement" they won't even think about rear DRL's - I suspect it will take one of their senior execs to meet his demise in such an accident before the rest of us can have a car that can be seen from the rear in foggy conditions with only the front DRL's on.

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14-03-2014 10:38am
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cjfp
 

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RE: Auto Lights and Fog!

And, as I posted last year, if you have 'auto' on and it has decided to put your lights on and you have decided to put your fog lights on then, if you hit bright fog (as per above) it will switch the lights back to just DRLS and turn off the fog lights! As Tim post above, this was highlighted to LR but, probably due to litigation etc, they said that the programme was as per the current law.

Oh, and what's the excuse for those muppets with absolutely no lights on ?!

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14-03-2014 05:34pm
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mark_n
 

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RE: Auto Lights and Fog!

I think it's a clear example of how driver aids are not foolproof and will not work all the time. Radar Cruise, Auto Parking, Blind Spot Monitoring, Auto Dip Headlights, Wade Sensing and so on. They are only as good as the sensor info they have and it's often not good enough.

I like driver aids which give you more info, like cameras, parking sensors but the decision how to use it must always be down to me.
14-03-2014 06:54pm
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cjfp
 

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RE: Auto Lights and Fog!

Agreed, but if they are there then they should be structured / programmed to their best - why not have rear lights on when on DRL even if law says not required? If user has actively switched on fog lights, logic says it must be safer to leave them on and let user switch off.

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14-03-2014 07:02pm
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donot521
 

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RE: Auto Lights and Fog!

I think it is common sense to manually turn on the light during heavy fog.... Common sense people
15-03-2014 02:17am
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XFullFatTim
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RE: Auto Lights and Fog!

donot, it is BUT many many people in the UK seem to have forgotten that they do need to manually turn on headlights in certain weather conditions that are not dark enough to trigger the auto-on system. Last evening as I was driving home from town in the dark I must have drive passed at least 6 cars (not all RRE's I hasten to add) driving in the dark on DRL's only............. so not only are theynot drving with due care and attention, they don't even have the auto-on switched to auto!

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15-03-2014 08:27am
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recordman
 

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RE: Auto Lights and Fog!

I think it's quite an issue now that people rely too much on auto-headlights. An early foggy morning start off in the dark, the lights are on - good. As the time passes it gets lighter but the fog remains and the lights go off - bad!

Also, is there a reason why headlights aren't programmed to come on when the wipers are in use? I'm sure that I've had rental cars in the U.S. that do that. Surely this would be a sensible step.

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15-03-2014 11:24am
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cjfp
 

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RE: Auto Lights and Fog!

(15-03-2014 11:24am)recordman Wrote:  Also, is there a reason why headlights aren't programmed to come on when the wipers are in use? I'm sure that I've had rental cars in the U.S. that do that. Surely this would be a sensible step.

Iirc, i think they do.

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15-03-2014 12:01pm
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RE: Auto Lights and Fog!

If you have auto on headlights and wipers on the Evoque the headlights will switch on once the wipers have completed either 3 or 5 sweeps of the windscreen - cannot remember which as it is such a long time since I have driven an Evoque in the wet!

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15-03-2014 01:50pm
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